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80s Industrial vs. New school Industrial

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    So, what do you think is better?

    I honestly couldn't pick even if my life depended on it! The old school bands (skinny puppy, FLA, Front242, Thrill Kill Kult, Neubauten...) definitely have a place in my heart and I'll never stop listening to them, but the industrial bands of the 90s and today are so great too! I couldn't live without my Covenant, Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil, VnV Nation (although I'm tired of hearing them all the time), Hocico, Neuroticfish, Wumpscut, E-craft, Project Pitchfork, Funker Vogt, Haujobb, Suicide Commando, Das Ich, etc...etc. Their sound developed from the earlier bands and, to me, is just as good, if not better, in some cases.

    Anyone have any thoughts?

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    Aah...you knew I have to answer... <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

    Since Iīve admittedly addicted to 80s Synthpop (and everything which sounds like that), Iīm also more into the "old" EBM stuff.

    Some of the EBM/Industrial bands of today have pumped out great tracks, but itīs hard to listen to any complete album, as nearly all of them are featuring distorted voices and guitars.
    Well, even 242 stumbled into the "Industrial trap"...and I think the albums "Up Evil" and "Fluck Off" broke their neck as those were the beginning of a series of weaker outputs until they offically closed the 242 file.

    Another reason might be that there is no definite line to tell EBM and Industrial apart anymore. Letīs just say that I love it rather pure... <img src="wink.gif" border="0">


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    aah..

    me thinks wavey has his eye on a stalkee...


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    Originally posted by Vilji:
    <STRONG>aah..

    me thinks wavey has his eye on a stalkee...


    <img src="cool.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
    Stalkee...ist that some Belgian EBM group? <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">


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    Originally posted by wavemaster:
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    Stalkee...ist that some Belgian EBM group? <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
    Speaking of European EBM groups *LMAO* ever listen to track 2 off of Covenant's " Sequencer" album? It's a good song. <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> Highly reccommended! haha

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    Originally posted by Vilji:
    <STRONG>aah..

    me thinks wavey has his eye on a stalkee...


    <img src="cool.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
    "Love is in the air. Everywhere I look around." Aaaaah, it's like Spring everyday around here. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
    Boom! Boom!
    Waaahahahahaha!

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    *LOL*...xis, maybe we should have discussed about tracks like "Mutilate" or "Hate Is A 4 Letter Word"... <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">


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    oh god! *LOL* Maybe some "Non-Stop Violence" or "Murderous"

    Let's see how they feel about that! haha

    <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

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    I was a huge Ministry and My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult fan in high school and college. Not many things make me happier than cranking up "Every Day is Halloween" and thrashing around the apartment, scaring the cat. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

    I haven't listened to the new stuff much... do you have any particular suggestions for starters? Thanks!
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    Mary,
    I would suggest bands like Apoptygma Berzerk (older stuff is harder), Beborn Beton & VNV Nation.

    I'm surprised to how much the old Front 242 still rocks. It's like timeless. But then again, older Shamen and Nitzer Ebb has the same timeless feeling to it.

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    Nitzer Ebb!
    How could I forget them? They pumped out a number of memorable tracks, like "Join In The Chant", "Fun To Be Had" or "Lightning Man".

    And Shamen, I can still remember the trouble about "Ebeneezer Goode", as the refrain could also be understood as "E(cstasy) is good" - maybe they wanted it this way. It was hard to get their stuff here, "En-Tact" is their best release IMHO.

    Ministry...they gained a wider audience (in Germany) with their famous "Psalm 69", and I was really wondering if that was the same band I knew from the 80s. It was the same band actually...and I have to say that I like their old stuff much better.

    A very good 242-clone is a German band called MASTERTUNE. Old EBM stuff at itīs best, still they need a little more variety.
    Some 242 sideprojects are also worth giving a try...check out CYBER-TEC PROJECT (later shortened to C-TEC) and COBALT 60.

    Always a good tip while underrated are KMFDM. This formation doesnīt exist anymore, but one of the former members teamed up with other musicians in a band called...MDFMK.
    (Note: there are some more or less funny explanations for that abbreviation...here are some:
    - Karl Marx Found Dead Masturbating
    - Kein Mitleid Fuer Die Mehrheit (transl. No Mercy For The Majority)
    - Kein Mitleid Fuer Depeche Mode (now try it for yourself... <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> ) )

    DIE KRUPPS, evolved from Germanys first punk band Male over harsh electronics to thunderous Industrial. Give yourself a treatment to "Paradise Now", their last release. All Killers, no fillers. Also not existent anymore...

    Do I have to mention RAMMSTEIN?
    If I have to, get their first album "Herzeleid". If not, check out for artists like OOMPH!, MEGAHERZ, WEISSGLUT, SCHWEISSER etc. German Industrial. Nice stuff.

    More? Ask xistenza... <img src="wink.gif" border="0">


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    OK, Wave..so you forgot about Nitzer Ebb, but I completely forgot Rammstein!!!

    Rammstein is definitely worth a listen. Sucks you right in! I have a great Rammstein cover of a Depeche Mode song - I believe it is "Stripped". <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Good Stuff!

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    Cool

    Thanks for all the great suggestions! I've always liked the Shamen and Nitzer Ebb.
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    Mary-

    Here's what I suggest. My tastes lean me towards the more EBM oriented bands not harsh metal industrial ones. Sorry boys! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

    If you really want to get a few new things, try:

    Apoptygma Berzerk "7" - has some excellent track on it.

    Covenant - "Sequencer" or Dream of a "Cryotank"

    VnV Nation - "Praise the Fallen"

    I think you'll like all of these. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> And, you get them through amazon and listen to samples there. You also might find them in a local record store depending upon where you live.

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    Originally posted by wavemaster:
    <STRONG>Always a good tip while underrated are KMFDM. This formation doesnīt exist anymore, but one of the former members teamed up with other musicians in a band called...MDFMK.
    (Note: there are some more or less funny explanations for that abbreviation...here are some:
    - Karl Marx Found Dead Masturbating
    - Kein Mitleid Fuer Die Mehrheit (transl. No Mercy For The Majority)
    - Kein Mitleid Fuer Depeche Mode (now try it for yourself... <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> ) )
    </STRONG>

    I was told it meant Killer Mother F***in Dance Music

    I don't know any modern Industrial bands. But here are some old ones I like:

    MicroChip League - "New York" (Great song)
    Poesie Noire - "Pity For The Self"
    Airplane Crashers - "White Rabbit"
    Invincible Limit - "Push"
    Section 25 - "Looking From A Hilltop"
    Voyou - "Houseman"
    Front 242 - "Welcome To Paradise"
    Front 242 - "Headhunter"
    Nitzer Ebb - "Join In The Chant"
    Ministry - "Everyday Is Halloween"

    I think these are all Industrial. If not they are close.
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